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Poll #1774968 Computer games: Art?

Are computer games 'art'?

Yes. Always.
2(15.4%)
No. Never.
0(0.0%)
Some games are 'art'. Some games are not 'art'.
9(69.2%)
No games developed to date are 'art', but in the future there may be games that are 'art'.
2(15.4%)

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interactiveleaf
Sep. 1st, 2011 08:13 pm (UTC)
Sometimes they're bad art, mind.
philmophlegm
Sep. 1st, 2011 08:50 pm (UTC)
Gooood point.


Everyone should feel free to add comments to their own preferred degree of artiness. Bonus points if the text somehow suggests it would be spoken by Brian Sewell.
philmophlegm
Sep. 1st, 2011 09:02 pm (UTC)
By the way, welcome on board. Can't promise you'll always agree with me, but I hope you enjoy the trip.
interactiveleaf
Sep. 1st, 2011 09:59 pm (UTC)
Why thank you!
helflaed
Sep. 1st, 2011 08:25 pm (UTC)
Anything can be art. Although not everything is.
andrewducker
Sep. 1st, 2011 08:29 pm (UTC)
Yes. If you ask people what they mean by "art" you'll get more answers than there are people. And some games will match their definitions, and some won't.
philmophlegm
Sep. 1st, 2011 09:51 pm (UTC)
On a related subject, the reason given by the German government for today's decision to finally uncensor Doom, is that it was now "mainly of historical interest"
bunn
Sep. 2nd, 2011 02:28 pm (UTC)
Is art of historical interest?
philmophlegm
Sep. 2nd, 2011 02:35 pm (UTC)
BBC News: "The rules have been relaxed because officials believe that Doom is now only of artistic and scientific interest and will not appeal to youngsters."


"The Federal Department for Media Harmful to Young Persons (Bundesprufstelle) said it had relaxed the restrictions because Doom was now "mainly of historical interest" and was far less likely to be played by children. Not least, it added, because much more realistic and challenging games were more widely available."

elmo_iscariot
Sep. 2nd, 2011 05:48 pm (UTC)
I take the Scott McCloud definition of art: it's any human endeavor that isn't directly intended for survival. Yes, the lines blur. But expression for the point of creating enjoyment is art, whether or not it's skillful, incisive, or actually enjoyable. In the example he used, a caveman running from a tiger is not art. Said caveman leaping for a tree limb and letting the tiger fall off a cliff is also not art. Blowing raspberries down after the tiger? Art.

So video games are art when they exist to entertain. Not-art would be, I dunno, aircraft training systems, or combat simulators.
philmophlegm
Sep. 2nd, 2011 06:07 pm (UTC)
Interesting definition.
king_of_wrong
Sep. 3rd, 2011 09:15 am (UTC)
Ico is definitely art, possibly even Art, so that's a rather appropriate icon.

I'd say the vast majority of games fall into design rather than art. The overly pretentious might claim Harry Beck's tube map or Pininfarina coachwork or a Savile Row suit are art, but they primarily exist to guide/transport/clothe people and do so while looking good. Craftsmanship rather than art.
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