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Moving About For Pleasure Poll

Poll #1966713 Moving about for pleasure poll

Do you ever go for a walk for no other reason than pleasure? (So dog walking doesn't count for example, and neither does walking to work even if you could drive.)

Yes
22(71.0%)
No
9(29.0%)

Do you ever go for a bicycle ride for no other reason than pleasure?

Yes
11(36.7%)
No
19(63.3%)

Do you ever go for a drive or a motorbike ride for no other reason than pleasure?

Yes
4(13.8%)
No
25(86.2%)

Do you ever go for a run or a jog for no other reason than pleasure?

Yes
3(10.3%)
No
26(89.7%)


To make this perfectly clear, for a journey to be purely about pleasure there can't be any other reason to do it. So going for a walk in the country counts, but not if you had to walk the dog anyway. Going for a scenic drive counts, but not if you just took the scenic route to somewhere you had to get to anyway. Going for a jog or a run counts, but not if you're doing it partially to get fit.

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atreic
May. 2nd, 2014 11:37 am (UTC)
I don't think I ever do anything with just a single motive. That's quite depressing and cheering all at the same time.

[You say dog walking doesn't count, does that mean going for a walk with a baby doesn't count? Or a teenager? What about a date-like walk with another adult? Or a non-date-like walk where you just like chatting to each other?]
philmophlegm
May. 2nd, 2014 12:24 pm (UTC)
If you didn't need to take the baby for a walk (in the way that you _need_ to take a dog for a walk), then I reckon you can count that. I'll let you have a date-like walk with another adult. And I'll let you have a non-date like walk where you chat since you could have done the chatting just as easily without the walk.
rmc28
May. 3rd, 2014 12:35 pm (UTC)
Likewise. I cycle to commute and run errands and pick up my children - and I also take pleasure in it. I run to keep fit - but I also take pleasure in it, which is why for preference I run outdoors and playing Zombies Run rather than in a gym with crappy music.

Given how hard it is to schedule my life around work and children just to get my "keeping fit" time in, and an occasional date with my husband, the idea of having the time to go for a walk or run "just for fun" is hilarious.
beckyc
May. 2nd, 2014 11:54 am (UTC)
The only one I feel remotely guilty about is the driving one.
philmophlegm
May. 2nd, 2014 12:25 pm (UTC)
So tell me about this...guilt. When you were little, do you feel you got enough attention from your parents?
wellinghall
May. 2nd, 2014 12:33 pm (UTC)
What if you had a dog just so you could take it for walks?
bunn
May. 2nd, 2014 01:03 pm (UTC)
This! Walks are pretty much the reason why I have dogs. If I didn't want to go for lots of walks for fun, I'd stick to cats.
alitheapipkin
May. 2nd, 2014 02:47 pm (UTC)
Yes, I am looking forward to getting dogs so I have an excuse to walk more. I find I often get funny looks wondering about on my own without one.
inamac
May. 2nd, 2014 05:23 pm (UTC)
This is exactly why I got my dog. Also, for a single woman, wandering about in the local woods reciting random poetry (which I tended to do pre-dog) is not something I'd recommend.
ladyofastolat
May. 3rd, 2014 02:15 pm (UTC)
I do loads of long country walks by myself, with no dog. I've noticed that I only get funny looks if I walk without a rucksack, while wearing brightly coloured trousers. If I have a rucksack and sombre, mud-splattered trousers, people clearly slot me into the category of "walker" and there are no funny looks at all, only smiles and hellos. But I guess I react the same way. If I'm miles from anywhere and see a lone man approaching, I feel a little nervous unless he either has a dog, or has clear visual trappings that label him as a serious walker.
ozisim
May. 2nd, 2014 12:47 pm (UTC)
I tend to do all of those things, but only when I'm on hioliday.
ladyofastolat
May. 2nd, 2014 12:59 pm (UTC)
If I had a bike, I expect I'd go for a bike ride just for pleasure, but I haven't*, so I don't. I keep meaning to hire one for a day to see if the proverbial wisdom is true.

* Not technically true, since my parents finally got fed up with my old bike cluttering up their garage and brought it to me some years ago, whereupon I forgot about it and left it outside all winter, gently rusting away. It's now stuffed in a leaky shed, where it's doubtless rusting even further. It also has no pedals. Pedals are quite useful things for a bike to have, I understand.
bunn
May. 2nd, 2014 01:06 pm (UTC)
+1 on pretty much all of this, including the rusty bike with pedals.
ladyofastolat
May. 2nd, 2014 01:16 pm (UTC)
I see plenty of people around whose idea of taking a dog for a walk is to trudge grumpily a few hundred yards to a public park (or even drive to the nearest countryside car park), and stand still while the dog hares around a bit. So when I meet someone who's miles away from the nearest car park, striding through the countryside with a dog at their heels, I think that person is indeed walking purely for pleasure; it's just that the dog happens to have come along, too.
bunn
May. 2nd, 2014 03:48 pm (UTC)
Judging by foster dogs I have had, there are plenty of people whose idea of walking the dog stops about six months in from puppyhood, or occurs only at sunny weekends when they have nothing else on.

Many dogs seem to survive the consequent restriction and boredom without actually going insane, which demonstrates what a basically nice-natured and tolerant species they are.
alitheapipkin
May. 2nd, 2014 02:43 pm (UTC)
With the qualifiers that I don't drive* and I used to go for jogs just for pleasure years ago when I was fit and lived next to a canal.

*My hubby does and we own a car, but I don't think we ever go out in it just to drive around for pleasure. We drive out in it to go places to walk for pleasure, and sometimes we pick longer, more scenic routes there or back for pleasure, but we don't go out in it and not leave the car ever that I can recall.
mair_aw
May. 3rd, 2014 10:49 am (UTC)
I do not "go for a jog or run" but might occasionally break into a run for 100 yards or so when I'm walking and feel the need to be more energetic.

bohemiancoast
May. 3rd, 2014 01:56 pm (UTC)
It's ...more complicated than that... I think I'm another person who mostly has mixed motives for things.

You didn't include going for a swim for pure pleasure, which I definitely do (especially outdoors); and in general the pure pleasure elements outweigh the exercise elements for swimming by a mile. In fact, had I thought of it earlier, I'd have gone down to the lido today, but I realise that it's pointless now; it will be packed. Harrumph.

I like things like dance mat, and badminton, and so on, for their own sake, but I do them at least partly because there's an exercise benefit.

I'm not sure anyone runs for pure pleasure, even people who love running.

And with dogs; I know several people who got a dog because they like walking, and walking is even more fun with a dog... or they enjoy walking and want to do more of it, and having a dog is a way to inject more walks into their lives.

Edited at 2014-05-03 01:58 pm (UTC)
sally_maria
May. 3rd, 2014 05:08 pm (UTC)
I go for scenic rides on steam trains sometimes, pretty much just for the fun of it - does that count?

What about a scenic drive to get ice cream at a particularly attractive spot? It's not that we *need* the ice cream, or to drive to that particular place to buy it.
darkoshi
May. 3rd, 2014 06:28 pm (UTC)
The questions aren't really clear-cut enough for me to answer. Except the driving one, as I don't find driving pleasurable in itself.

I sometimes run short distances like from my driveway to the mailbox, just because I want to run, or to skip and hop. Yet I suppose that wouldn't count, as technically I'm also getting the mail at the same time.

Other places, I sometimes want to break out into a run but don't, as it would make me look odd to anyone watching - and it's difficult to run when carrying several bags.

I used to "go for jogs", but that was definitely for fitness, as well as appeasing the inner desire to be able to break out into a run and run as fast as I could until I'm completely out of breath.

Part of the pleasure I get from activity is from feeling that I'm doing something to get fit, or to stay fit, or to achieve that inner version of the ideal me. From proving to myself that I can do something difficult in spite of the difficulty.

As for going for walks... I could eat my lunch at my desk, but I prefer to walk outside to the picnic area by the pond to eat there, so does that count? If I could teleport myself from my desk to the pond, I'd still prefer to walk, because the walk itself is enjoyable. But I also know that it gives me exercise, and I walk a longer route than necessary, in order to get that extra exercise, as well as getting the extra enjoyment of a longer walk. So I suppose that wouldn't count either.

I also like to climb stairs. I hardly ever use elevators. But I also know that climbing stairs gives me exercise, and I like knowing that I'm getting this extra exercise.

It seems that what you are asking is whether we would do these activities purely for their pleasure, even if we believed that doing them was bad for us rather than good. And that is a difficult question, as part of the pleasure is knowing that they are good for us. Could I see the activities as pleasurable even if I thought they were bad for me?

Suppose that I believed that being active made me less fit, less strong. Suppose I believed that there's only a finite amount of energy that a person has to begin with, and any activity uses it up, reducing the amount of potential activity one has left for the remainder of one's life - that there's no way of replenishing it. Suppose that once one's energy was used up, one would still live on, but as an invalid, weak and frail. Suppose my vision of an ideal person was someone with the largest amount of potential activity left - would I still choose to be more active than necessary, even if being active felt good? Is this what you are really asking?
darkoshi
May. 3rd, 2014 06:42 pm (UTC)
Perhaps what you are trying to get at, is more the following scenario.

Suppose that being active didn't increase nor decrease one's fitness level at all. Suppose that the only proven way to increase one's level of fitness, flexibility, and overall strength & health, is to sit quietly and meditate in a still position. Then, would one still choose to spend time doing physical activities for the pure pleasure of it? If one didn't even get any side-benefit of increased fitness from doing them? That's an interesting question, but again, hard to know how I would act if that scenario were actually real.

Another thought. Being active is supposed to make one feel good - to reduce depression and such. So one reason I sometimes do things like going for a walk, is because I hope that they will make me feel better. Not because I know that it will bring me pleasure, but that I hope it will make me feel better mentally. That's similar to doing it because I hope it will be good for me physically. So would that count?
eledonecirrhosa
May. 4th, 2014 09:20 am (UTC)
I don't own a car, motorcycle or bike, so those answers are 'no' by default.

I'll sometimes jog down a corridor or across the car park at work simply because I feel like running, but it's always when I was going that way anyway for some work related reason.

I haven't done any walking simply for pleasure for years. Too much other stuff to cram into my free time. Plus I hate getting rained on!
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